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How do I completely remove all mods from Skyrim? Bethesda Support Properly Restarting Game & Load Order Okay, so how the f*** do I delete mods without getting ghost space?
"You can't remove mods from ongoing game. Skyrim bakes script data to save file. вЂє app вЂє discussions. Went into NMM and uninstalled (not deleted) the mod to remove it from the I close it anyway and loaded up Skyrim Save Script Cleaner. вЂє skyrimmods вЂє comments вЂє so_ive_been_removing_mo. it in my hour save (cleaning my save everytime I remove mods of course). r/skyrimmods - For the love of god, someone please just give Alvor and. вЂє sharedfiles вЂє filedetails. This is a guide on how to safely uninstall a mod from a game save that you have already been playing with. If your like me sometimes you. If that mod saves data to the save file then there is no method for removing it on console. Skyrim doesn't support removing mods mid. For The Elder Scrolls V: Skyrim Special Edition on the Xbox One, Load up and create new saves without the mod I want to delete. Will I lose my save files if I uninstall skyrim? No, you shouldn't lose your saves. They are. To delete a Mod, open The Elder Scrolls V: Skyrim Special Edition and select Do not delete your save files, but only the game itself. Corrupted saves usually happen (to my knowledge) when you remove mods improperly. These are my tips from my experience: Disable mod you want to remove. Exit to.

Home Discussions Workshop Market Broadcasts. Change language. Install Steam. Store Page. Global Achievements. Initially posted in original Skyrim forum Am posting this because the problem of individuals removing mods mid-playthrough and subsequently having problems seems to be cropping up quite a bit recently. From Arthmoor: "3. There is no such thing as a clean save. It does not matter who tells you there is, it doesn't exist in Skyrim. You cannot remove any mod, not even the patch, without there being some data that's been permanently changed. Bethesda's own developers have confirmed the only way to properly remove a mod is to load a save made BEFORE that mod was introduced into the game. If you started a new game with 10 mods installed, you're going to be stuck with those 10 forever. Posts section, second stickied post, point of information 3 posted , 8 Feb , stickied at , 8 Feb and Ilja: "You can't remove mods from ongoing game. Skyrim bakes script data to save file. There is no such thing as a clean save, when mod is removed. This includes work done with Save Script Cleaner. That tool cleans obsolete entries and orphaned scripts from the game, but script data will remain in the save file, causing Papryus to constantly check it and creating errors. If you removed scripted mods from ongoing game, then you will have to start a new game. Latter is impossible to make in a clean way. Skyrim bakes script data to save files and unisntalling the mod does not remove it. It only causes errors in Papyrus scripting system. It bakes script data to save files and can not retroactively update scripts from the game. This means that Papyrus will keep checking after scripts that were removed from the game, causing errors, slowing down and eventually breaking. You should test all changes with a new game. Once you are done, then you will need to start a new game. You can always safely remove mods that use: - Vanilla spawn points and assets, without direct world edits. Otherwise removing any mods will leave the data baked in to save files. That will cause issues in the game, starting from oddities and potentially ending in completely wrecked Papyrus for the character you were playing. Cleaning your save file regularly won't stop save bloat or other script based errors. Every object in the game has a Reference ID, stored in the save file. This ID not only points to an ingame object, but also points to the plugin that has changed or added that object. This will also include MCM scripts. Not sure about. Enough things do so that it's getting hard to keep track of in my head, and what good does it to anyone else up there So far, we have: - Papyrus script properties. Script properties can only be updated by forcing them to change via an update script, like what the USKP uses for retroactive fixes. These can never be moved, even with scripted commands. Most attempts will simply fail silently, while others will log an error saying the objects can't be moved. These are not supposed to become permanently persistent, but more often than not that's exactly what happens. Including global variables and any other information. These changes are written as modification records in the save and can only be reversed with another script. Specifically, if you alter a map marker, remove the name from it, then proceed to play, the map marker will permanently lose this information even after the mod is removed. Even if you move them in the CK and you haven't disturbed them yourself. This may reset itself upon the cell's next cycle, but so far all indications are that it won't. Prior to this they will update. These fields appear to only bake in if the NPC actually loads into memory at least once during play. This seems somewhat hit or miss, but more often than not, if you have encountered an NPC while playing, any changes to their facegen data that may be made later will be ignored. You can make a one-time change to the game's timescale through an ESP, but after that, any changes to timescale must be done either via Papyrus or the console as the change is permanent in the save once made. No exceptions. We can't. Those stop scripts cannot resolve the issue. They only serve to shut down the running update loops those mods have. They cannot reverse the actual changes made. They should have been removed from Nexus considering they're dangerous and will only corrupt your save further. The only solution to the baked data problem is to abandon the save and start a new game. You can come back months later, change your form ID back to the old one, and it will simply resume using the old data in whatever state it was last in. As far as the game is concerned you've got a pair of quests using different instantiations of the same scripts. This is not something that happens when changing a form ID on some other object like a rock or a tree or whatever. Then again, changing a form ID on something like a quest was never designed to be possible. If you want to discover what mods you had active in a given save, all you do is click on the tab that says Saves. In the left hand pane, you will see a list of your save files; clicking on any of those save files will show - in the the right hand center pane - a list of all your mods that were active for that save. Blue checkbox indicates that all mods are present and in exactly the same order as they were for that save. Green checkbox indicates that all mods are presnt, but not in precisely the same position mods have been added and are in between the mods present in the save not an issue, and can be considered as good as blue Orange checkbox indicates that some mods are in a different position then they were in the save due to resorting the load order - not necessarily a problem as the game will handle this automatically, but due to the load order being modified, you may see some changes in game as a mod overwrites another that it originally did not. Red checkbox indicates that the highlighted mod is not present in your load order. This needs to be corrected by reinstalling that mod, as you cannot remove mods mid playthrough. If you cannot or do not wish to use that mod anymore, you must go back to a save from before it was installed, or start a new game. Last edited by smr ; 28 Aug pm. Showing 1 - 15 of comments. Miomazi View Profile View Posts. Use NMM or MO2 and just change your mod profile if you wish to make any significant changes or any deletions. It's not a direct fix but if you do that consistently then you'll never run into the issue. That way your old saves are still recoverable should you want to go back to them. Honestly does amaze me how often people don't realize not to uninstall mods on a character though. I think it's a good call on the post. Originally posted by Miomazi :. Definitely going to need an occasional 'bump' on this! Okay, so here are my questions. Later down the line the mod either has an issue that prevents gameplay, or a better alternative arises. No saves before the mod was installed exist, and even if they did, they are days worth of gameplay away. Is this just a big middle finger to wanting to continue playing on that save? If so, I don't think I can even play this game modded anymore as new mods come out every damn day and no load order is perfect enough not to have a gamebreaking issue at some point. Starting a new bloody game when I want to change one mod simply isn't plausible. Originally posted by Caaros, The King of Chaos :. Last edited by Miomazi ; 27 Sep, pm. To the above two posters, all the relevant information and reasons can be found in the posting. You can add most mods at any time unless the mod author specifically says otherwise. Updating mods can also be done - provided you follow the mod author's guidelines and some may say that you must start a new game if you wish to update. As to removal of mods, the information posted clearly states why you cannot, and what the exceptions are. And many people say many things - that does not mean that they are right. The information posted comes from some of the most knowledgeable people as to what can - and cannot - be done with regard to save files - Bethesda developers themselves; Arthmoor Unofficial Patch Project, who knows probably just as much as the game developers ; and Ilja one of the most respected forum regulars - if not the most respected. It also comes from voluminous accumulated knowledge and evidence gained from dealing with issues in the forums, and seeing the many, many examples of games having been broken by the removal of mods. As to the stability of the game, if an individual follows good modding and gameplay practices one of which is to thoroughly research the mods you wish to use and test them, and another is to save on a regular basis , the game can be very stable. I myself have over mods, with plugins merged down to , and it is extremely stable. Did it take a lot of work? Of course it did - all told probably more time than I've spent actually playing the game, but well worth it. Last edited by smr ; 27 Sep, pm. Boblawblah View Profile View Posts. Stop trying to scare people :P. Last edited by Boblawblah ; 27 Sep, pm. So here is my question. What if I'm the kind of person that regularly deletes old saves from about 4 or 5 play sessions ago in order to avoid having a disgustingly cluttered save menu? What if, even if there is a save before a mod is installed, it's days ago, making reverting back completely pointless as you will be spending that time mindlessly trying to get back to the point before reverting? What if a mod only starts having game-breaking issues after days of play that you could not have possibly known about before hand? I guess a better question to all that would be, why is the only solution to these problems 'give up, restart, and slog through everything you literally just played'? Surely someone in the vast and limitless modding community could have come up with a far better answer than this by now. I really hate to be rude, but the idea of completely starting over and mindlessly repeating everything the moment that a mod causes issues or a better alternative appears is completely baffling, alien, and downright ridiculous to me. If I did that, I'd never be able to even finish one questline before having to redo everything. Dave View Profile View Posts. I've gone so far as to yank scripts while the game was running, and didn't suffer any issues. In fact, the only issues I've encountered are 1, problems with inexperienced folks making clothing and armor for UNP who did something wrong usually failing to make correct skin partitions after imroperly rigging a piece thereby causing instability issues, and 2, a mod update which required SKSE. The mod author failed to mention this anywhere, and it utterly broke my Solstheim exterior. Other than that, I've butchered playthroughs and they still kept on going. You may not see it right away, it may not be something dramatic like a CTD , but that leftover info IS effecting the game. Maybe an NPC that is missing lines, or a quest that doesn't progress the way it should, or other miscellaneous glitches here and there. Is it possible to keep playing? Of course - and many people do, and we see many of them postiing iin the forums. And yes, it is frustrating to repeat things that you have already been done, but there is no way around it. As to being rude, I don't see you as being rude at all! You are expressing a genunine concern and desire for knowledge. We all wish that there WAS some way of repairing a save file, or removing unwanted data - but there just isn't. If an individual wants to continue playing after removing a mod provided it is not one of the exceptions listed at the top of the discussion post which are safe to remove , then they are taking a genuine risk. The consequences may be very small though bothersome , or totally gamebreaking. The information has been presented - it is up to each individual to make what use of it that they will. Unfortunately, it's time for me to hit the sack - working tomorrow, and that alarm is going to be ringing all too soon! Thanks to all of you who are posting! I will not be home till late evening, so even though I won't be able to post or respond, I'm sure some of the other forum regulars willl be posting here. Thanks again, and good night all! Per page: 15 30 Date Posted: 27 Sep, pm. Posts: Discussions Rules and Guidelines. Need help with the stupid alduins wall bug. BA's Build Message to Whiterun Quest will not Initialize. Note: This is ONLY to be used to report spam, advertising, and problematic harassment, fighting, or rude posts. All rights reserved. All trademarks are property of their respective owners in the US and other countries. Some geospatial data on this website is provided by geonames. 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